Do You Have the Right People on Your Bus?

Cathie Leimbach • March 30, 2021

As Jim Collins says in his book, Good to Great, the first step in taking a company from good to great is “getting the right people on the bus and getting the wrong people off the bus.” Suppose you lead an organization that is doing okay just now, and you would like to up its game. In that case, the first step is to ensure that every member of the management team is energized by the thought of leaving the status quo behind and doing what it takes to reach new heights.


Yes, that means shaking things up a bit - or maybe even a lot! The current way of doing things is getting okay results. It will take creative thinking, innovative methods, and lots of hard work to break free of existing norms and achieve a greater good. As we enter 2021, most organizations are seeking a breakthrough. This will require a change in staff or a change in the commitment and contributions of current staff.


How can you tell which team members are the right people to move the organization forward or the wrong people to stay on board? Let’s look at three of the factors to consider: personal values, passion, and adaptability. 


First, ask those currently on the management team and those who might join the team soon to share their top five personal values. How well do these values align with the organization’s values and the expectations required of management team members during the intended transformation period? Ask the candidates to explain how their values will help them lead organizational repositioning or how they might limit their involvement.


Someone who values family positively may say that he reserves all day Sunday for family time to build strong relationships, create memories, and recharge. He needs to be home for dinner at least two weekdays but has flexibility the other evenings. His insistence on a family day every week may reduce his chances of burning out, and the ability to work late some days enables him to handle a heavier workload.


Another candidate might say that because she highly values family, she coaches the travel soccer teams of both her children year-round. As a result, she will be unavailable after 5:00 pm almost every weekday and most Saturdays and Sundays. This candidate contributes significantly to the community by helping her children and others build strong bodies, discipline, and team spirit. However, it may not be possible for her to devote the necessary extra time and energy required of transformational management team members. 


Second, ask management team candidates to explain why the organization exists, why they work for the organization, and why they would like to be on the management team going forward. Those who understand the organization’s purpose and are passionate about it will be the most invested in leading it from good to great!


Third, ask them how they feel about stability, predictability, and change. Ask them to share a time when circumstances changed around them and how they responded. Those who will lead your new initiatives must show their ability to adapt and enjoy overcoming challenges. Adaptability is likely the most essential skill for individuals and organizations positioned for success this year and in the years ahead.


Some organizations embrace this time of challenge and uncertainty as a time to transform their focus, strategies, and culture. Those who move forward intentionally with the right people on the bus are the most likely to be serving their customers and their communities well in the years to come.


What is the next step you will take to be surrounded by the right people to create great success for your organization in 2021 and beyond?


I’m available to help you move forward. Please contact me if you would like a free consultation to help you define your next steps.

“All Good” is Never a Good Response

By Cathie Leimbach • October 6, 2026
“All good,” they said. But Sarah wasn’t so sure. In the team meeting, just two people did most of the talking. Team members who once offered ideas just waited for the meeting to end. Three people called in 'sick' on the day of our monthly planning and progress-review meeting. Today was just another day with her disengaged team. Sarah realized that whenever she asked others how things were going, she got the same response: “All good.” It never failed that within a day or two of what seemed like positive feedback, a problem surfaced. It might be that they didn't know how to proceed with a new project. Or they were trying to hide a mistake they made. Things definitely were not "All Good". Then, she thought about the questions she usually asked. “Everything on track?” “Will that be ready by Friday?” She wanted to know how her people were progressing with their work. But she had asked closed-ended questions, so she got brief responses that told her nothing. At her next one-to-one, she asked, “How have things been for you lately?” “Fine. Busy.” She almost moved on. But, instead, she dug a bit deeper. “What’s been making things especially busy?” This time, the answer was different. There were competing demands she hadn’t known about. A concern that had gone unspoken. And a feeling that nobody really talked anymore unless they needed help with something urgent. This one conversation provided important information. It gave her a place to start moving forward to improve engagement and results. If you can relate to Sarah's struggles, here are some tips to help you stay on top of how your employees' work is truly going. Absenteeism and disengagement can have many causes. We can't begin to understand them by accepting thoughtless answers. We need to create an environment where people feel comfortable sharing what’s really happening. Interpersonal rapport is essential. It grows through small moments: asking a thoughtful question, listening without rushing to solve a concern, remembering what someone said, and checking back. This week, try asking a couple of specific open-ended questions such as: “What’s been going well for you?" And "What’s been difficult?” Let the answers guide your next questions. Give the person room to share. Then, a few days later, follow up. “You mentioned the client report deadline was going to be hard to meet. How’s it going?” Then, "What help do you need?" When you take a few minutes for such check-ins, employees feel more supported than if you just ask, “How are you?”, as you are walking by. It indicates: I heard your concern. I remembered. I’m interested. I want you to succeed. Your team members are more likely to get involved, be honest with you, and share ideas when they feel heard and connected to the people they work with. Want to get more comfortable starting those conversations? Join our Workplace Conversations Clinic on October 19 to practice building interpersonal rapport through conversations that matter.  Reserve your place → [registration link]

Same Conversation, Different Expectations: Why One-on-Ones Need a Clear Close

By Cathie Leimbach • September 29, 2026
Jason left his one-on-one feeling encouraged. His supervisor, Ellen, had listened as he described competing deadlines and his interest in becoming a team leader. They talked about the possibility of shifting some of his workload. Ellen also suggested that training might help him prepare for a leadership role. "Let's work on that," she said. Jason thought help was coming. Ellen thought Jason would bring her a plan. Two weeks later, the deadlines were closer. Nothing had been reassigned. Neither had looked into training. During their next one-on-one, Ellen asked how things were going. "I'm still waiting to hear which project you want me to focus on," Jason said. "I thought we agreed that you would work that out." "And the leadership training?" "Did you find a course?" Jason paused. "I thought you were going to recommend one." They had discussed the same topics. They had left with different expectations. Neither intended to let the other down. But they hadn't agreed on who would do what, or when. Turn a Good Conversation into Clear Next Steps Listening matters. So does what happens after you listen. Before you end your next one-on-one, take a few minutes to make sure you and your employee understand what comes next. Talk about priorities. If everything can't be done at once, agree on what comes first. Ask what might get in the way, and what support would help. Make room for professional growth, too. What does the employee want to learn? What responsibility would they like to prepare for? Identify a step you can each take to move that development forward. Then write down your agreements. Keep the notes simple: what needs to happen, who will do it, and by when. Include your own commitments. Putting It Into Practice Ellen and Jason tried again. "The client proposal comes first," Ellen said. "I'll talk with Marcus today about taking over the weekly report. By Friday, I'll let you know whether he can." "I'll find two leadership courses before our next meeting," Jason said. "Then we can talk about which one fits." Both Jason and Ellen knew what to do next. The following week, both reported their findings and they made decisions on how to move forward. Jason’s work became more aligned with Ellen’s departmental goals. Jason felt valued and appreciated. Their weekly one-to-ones became the backbone of their workplace success. Want to Make Your Workplace Conversations More Productive? Join us for the Workplace Conversations Clinic on October 19 . Bring a conversation you want to handle more effectively, and let's work on making the next steps clear. Register Here